“The goal here is to be as much of me as possible.”
The brief clip opens with Mac programming Rubin’s vintage (and battered) TR-808 drum machine before the producer enters the room to greet him. Following a quick but warm embrace, Miller and Rubin discuss the rapper’s, at the time, soon-to-drop fifth studio album, Swimming. Miller describes the process of writing such a deeply personal document as “scary,” but notes “the goal here is to be as much of me as possible.” Rubin affirms the difficulty of capturing an artist’s most vulnerable moments, but adds that “if you think about, your favorite records do that. The one’s you like that other people make, that’s the shit.”
Swimming was released on August 3, 2018, just four weeks before the rapper’s death. It remains Miller’s most critically-lauded project to date, featuring appearances from J. Cole, Dev Hynes, Dam-Funk, Thundercat, Flying Lotus, Steve Lacy, and more.
Watch Mac Miller and Rick Rubin chop it up in a new clip from Shangri-La below. Catch up on the series via Showtime ahead of its finale next Friday at 9pm.