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The Okayplayer Interview: Georgia Anne Muldrow & Dudley Perkins On Hugging Trees & Getting Robbed

The Okayplayer Interview: Georgia Anne Muldrow & Dudley Perkins On Hugging Trees & Getting Robbed

Georgia Anne Muldrow & Dudley Perkins interview


GAM: (she points to Dudley) Him!  I have to say that Dudley is really the foundation for that shit.


DP: I know in California at least, that wasn’t going on.  Doing weird stuff.  I never considered it weird.  I was just a drunk guy who was sad and hurt, so I did songs that were kind of weird.  Singing.  A rapper trying to sing.  A lot of people weren’t doing that at that time and I know they weren’t, because Madlib used to laugh at me every single time I did it.  He would be laughing and that just made me do it again.  Then you end up with a whole album.  A lot of rappers sing their own hooks now.  They’re not afraid of the sing-song thing now, but for a while it was taboo unless you were someone like Biz Markie or Slick Rick or something.


GAM: Making it kind of cute.  Making it sort of funny.


OKP: There seems to be this interesting shift happening – a return to consciousness and artistry that you guys have touched on.  What do you think has sparked the change and why now?


DP: People are on what they’re given.  If you’re only given two things you have to pick from one.  If you’re given oily air or dirty air, you need one of them.  That’s the choice you’ve got.  So these cats have actually been asleep to a lot of stuff – especially black cats.  We’re not supposed to be doing that other music.  It’s not supposed to exist.  It’s actually a part of the war effort and stuff like that.  It’s called programming and it’s called programming for a reason.  They put this music out on the radio to the people and it programs your spirit.  That’s why even churches are being bought out to change their messages, because they know churches can raise vibrations, but they can’t do it if the pastors don’t know what they’re talking about.


GAM: That’s true.


DP: I always say that any pastor who does not take care of himself personally, should not be leading the people.  Any leader who doesn’t lead their country to prayer shouldn’t be leading the country, because that means he’s just a war monger.  We’ve got thugs in the White House.


OKP: You’ve talked about this project as a continuation of your previous projects – your ever-growing body of work.  What do you think sets this project apart from the others as its own individual thing?


GAM: I think it’s because our roles are more defined.  I think that when we do our G&D projects in particular, they’re very superhero-oriented.  We’re like, “We’re not going to water nothing down!”  When we do G&D it’s just the straight up uncut.  When we do other things we have our own personal stories and other separate ideas.  With G&D we’re focused on figuring out exactly what we want to share with the people.  If this is the last thing we say, what is it that we want to leave with people?  What can a child be able to sing?  For that reason, our work is very intentional.  We also get really into the technological side.  We want it to sound really awesome – really clean.  I think that we always make an extra effort in mastering to make sure that our stuff sounds really over the top.


OKP: Is that something that keeps you up at night?  Making sure your production is right?


GAM: Absolutely.


DP: No sleep ‘til Brooklyn! (laughs)

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GAM: Yeah!  That’s exactly what it’s like.  He always teases me and says “No sleep ‘til Brooklyn” when he sees me up working. It really is like that, because when the kids are up you have to help them with their homework.  You have to be with them because they want to be with you.  They require that.


DP: The creative process starts at weird times sometimes.  When you’re really, really in the creative zone.


GAM: My little 4 year-old wants to sing Al Green all the time.  I have to let him sing, but once the kids are asleep that’s when I usually get it in.  I have to figure out a different way of doing things. Dudley too, because we burn ourselves out trying to be everything to everybody 24 for hours a day.


DP: When you get noticed for what you do it gets difficult.  Since we’ve started doing the label stuff, every time I get a distribution deal I’ll test it out with a new artist.  Somebody that we’re building up – say Eagle Nebula.  I actually produced her first track.  I’m trying to regulate what comes out with her.  I’ve got a label and a staff, so this is no joke.  This is real work.  This is serious stuff.  I could smash Stones Throw right now.  That’s one of my intentions – to get back some of what they owe us.  But instead of beating them down about it, let’s get to them creatively.  We also want to put out a newspaper.  They can call us tree-huggers or whatever…


GAM: Definitely a newspaper.  I guess we’re tree-huggers.  I talk to them.  If there were no trees we wouldn’t be breathing.


OKP: With all of these things on your plate, how would you describe your long-term mission?

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