Cardi B and Joe Biden have a candid discussion on topics important for Democrats in 2020: free college, the ongoing pandemic and more.

Cardi B has been the topic of discussion over the past week thanks to her raunchy, sex-positive collaboration with Megan Thee Stallion, “WAP.” Now, after landing the cover of ELLE’s September issue, she’s joined by Joe Biden in a Zoom conversation on the state of the nation ahead of the November election. 

Though the chat clocks in a bit over 16 minutes, Cardi and Joe have a candid conversation about Trump, Medicare for all, free college tuition, the COVID-19 pandemic and more. Cardi’s energy is quite infectious from the very beginning, she starts off by sharing her life revolves around her daughter. In response, Joe acknowledges that this is relatable as he has four children and five grandchildren.

One exchange, in particular, stands out during their discussion when Biden asks Cardi what her main interest is in the election: “I have a whole list of things that I want our next president to do for us. But first, I just want Trump out. His mouth gets us in trouble so much. I don’t want to be lied to—we’re dealing with a pandemic right now, and I just want answers.”

She also adds that it’s important for free Medicare, healthcare, and college to exist. The artists then ends this statement by noting laws that are fair for Black citizens and for cops needs to happen. “You know what? If I kill somebody, I’ve got to go to jail. You gotta go to jail, too. That’s what I want,” she said. Biden’s response: “There’s no reason why we can’t have all of that. Presidents have to take responsibility. I understand one of your favorite presidents is Franklin Roosevelt. Roosevelt said the American people can take anything if you tell them the truth. Sometimes the truth is hard. But right now, we’re in a position where we have an opportunity to make so much progress.”

Elsewhere during the conversation, Cardi addresses police brutality again. The deaths of Breonna Taylor, George Floyd, and countless others this year clearly were at the top of her mind before the Zoom. She candidly said, "I feel like Black people, we’re not asking for sympathy, we’re not asking for charity—we are just asking for equality. We are asking for fairness, and we are asking for justice." This was a fitting statement given the times we're living through.

You can watch the entire conversation below.