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Marco Polo & Torae

Double Barrel
(Duck Down : 2009)
Posted on 06/23/2009
After both Marco Polo and Torae had critical success with their respected albums, Port Authority and Daily Conversations, it seemed only natural that they would be destined for bigger things in hip-hop. It came as a surprise, however, that this potential success could come to them in the form of a duo together on a project released through Duck Down: Double Barrel. While the Canadian producer (Polo) is renowned for his DJ Premier-like boom bap style and his hard hitting, catchy loops, the Coney Island emcee (Torae) is becoming a consistent source when it comes to delivering clever and creative wordplay. At the end of the day, could Double Barrel prove to be a respectable outcome for both, or would it only favor one side of the duo and showcase the imperfections of the other?

On a production front, Marco delivers quite possibly the best-of-the-best that he ever has, effortlessly taking front stage of this duo project. While some think that his magnum opus came with Pumpkinhead on Orange Moon Over Brooklyn, listeners of DB will quickly magnetize to the thump and energy this high octane production spreads throughout the album. After the Red Bull-like boost given from the title track, Marco bombards the listeners with “Party Crashers,” “Lifetime,” and “Smoke;” encouraging neck-snapping aggression and forefront appreciation for the remarkable use of horns, snares, and cuts courtesy of DJ Revolution, who indeed, is the king of cuts. Quite frankly, the production throughout the entire LP is jaw-dropping, and even though Port Authority left this reviewer pondering about the lack of longevity in Polo’s beats, this time around, the beats stick to the eardrums like good hip hop always sticks to the soul.

Torae’s interesting. He has a great amount of skill and talent, more than most emcees these days; however, he’s not the most engaging artist. At times, he’s just too boring for even the most forgiving listener. We see signs of an incredible lyricist on “Word play,” a joint that has Tor playfully juggling his vocabulary effortlessly and then once again on the title track, as Torae matches the intensity of the Polo production. However there are more than a handful of cheesy and weak moments, like the “Danger” gem: “Orville Redenbacher, we pop the top.” Not to be picky, but lines like this are heard throughout the entire project, alongside Torae’s frequent mentions of “gay” or being gay or looking gay or rapping gay. It gets tired and I thought we stopped calling things “gay” after high school. Juvenile (and homophobic too)? Of course it is, and it only demeans any skill that Tor has. Regardless, “Rah Rah Sh*t” sums up Torae’s performance throughout the album: boring, dull, and limited even while attempting to jump-start a fire that Marco has evidently already started. Once again, this is upsetting considering the skill set Tor has.

It’s funny, because most, if not all of the pictures I’ve seen promoting this album have Torae at the front and Marco in the back; alluding to Torae as the star/front-man. This is Marco’s album, even if not listed. It might take until “Hold Up” to fully realize that it is indeed Torae who fades into the background after getting outdone by Masta Ace, Sean Price, and the Polo production (and cuts). Regardless, on Double Barrel, Marco emphasizes the fact that he has all the potential in the world to be a super-producer in hip-hop today (if he isn’t already) and Torae only reiterates that he still has a lot of work to do as an emcee. Still, what’s the greatest succession behind all of this? Even with a lot of the faults and uninspiring rhymes, Double Barrel is still one of the most entertaining albums of the year and an LP that is hard to put down. Pick your battles with it.

- Sean Deez
Comments (47)add comment
mike from memphis: ...
I downloaded this album..then I bought it R there 500,000 hip-hop fans left N this country and if so WHAT THA PHUCK R U BUYIN !! there's no reason 4 this cd & tha good ish like it 2 not B atleast gold..2 billion MF'S blogin & 25,000 buyin (if that) tha problem is U STAND UP & REALLY B COUNTED..
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August 02, 2009 - 12:52:40 AM
mongoslave: ...
I lost respect for this website and its users due to the amount of bashing this album. if this album is trash then name some HOT ones from 2009!!! Please!!! Top 5 (even though i hate doing top 5s). Whats poppin, if this album isnt?

Polo is a dope producer! He sounds a bit like Premo, who cares!? Is it a sin to have some influence?

I can listen to this album begining to end and not skip a track, theres not a lot of albums out these days where you can say that.
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July 07, 2009 - 11:04:52 PM
TELL THE WORLD MY NAME: ...
THE HARDEST BOOM-BAP ALBUM IN STORES IN '09
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July 06, 2009 - 12:04:22 AM
F DOT????: ...
eff dot daylee WTF are you talking about? Work ethic? WTF does that have to do with an album? You're an idiot.

Tor - 5 (weak concepts, we voice and extremely boring delivery)
Marco Polo - 7 (beat are decent but tend to sound similar and I would agree they're a little dated)

I give this album 6/10.
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July 01, 2009 - 03:43:46 PM
Todd Angkasuwan: ...
Alright then, point well taken. So to all the cats saying this album was boring, which album would you say has been the best album this year? Just curious what you're using as a gauge.
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June 30, 2009 - 07:43:42 PM
eff dot daylee: ...
ayo, Torae AND Tanya Morgan is live emcees. fuck all the bullshit. word to bed-stuy.
alot of u internet nerds want gold to bleed from us artist veins while u steal our music then complain about it.
Toraes beats is hot.
His bars is hot.
what else u need? him to come to yr house and freestyle w/u?
FOH.
I might not like certain shit about both of them (Torae and MP) but I know their work ethic.

simple.
dont be an okayhater.
there are 2 kinds of ppl in this world the creator made.
People who create and reg'lar ass lookin ass niggas to watch them.
which are u?
riiiight, stfu then.
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June 30, 2009 - 06:28:55 PM
Boooooooo: ...
BIG FAIL!
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June 29, 2009 - 04:47:49 PM
junclassic: ...
Ain't a 81 4 mics?

4/5 = 80%
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June 29, 2009 - 03:41:43 PM
HEY Todd Angkasuwan: ...
Best of the year? Be realistic. Not even close. Very boring album. Torae bores the shit out of me. Has anybody seen Marco Polo? Oh there he is, under Premo's nut sack!
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June 29, 2009 - 09:07:11 AM
Todd Angkasuwan: ...
Best album this year, period. At least thus far. It takes a lot for me to actually purchase an album and I copped this shit right away (solely on the strength of Port Authority).

I think a lot of cats got it twisted. The album is sick. It is what is...a raw, unapologetic, collection of smash ya face records. I don't think you can judge Torae based on this album alone. I'll admit, I kinda been sleepin on Torae until now. You can call him boring (I don't), but his delivery kept me interested. It doesn't hurt with MP on the beats. Yes...Marco Polo's production is what drives this album in my opinion, but I think Torae matched him line for line, beat for beat.

Great duo. I'm curious to see this partnership develop. I bet those who weren't feelin the album this time around will have a different opinion on the next one (if there is a next one). Progression is inevitable.

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June 29, 2009 - 03:40:38 AM
Deezill: ...
goddamn...

word up to all the positive and negative comments though. Some interesting-choice-comments of course.

As a side note... I gave the album an 81.. its not like I gave it a 50. an 81 is usually an A in most areas... its 4/5 mics, its an XL... It's a high score.
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June 28, 2009 - 09:03:47 PM
Hip Hop police.: ...
Where's your self respect? Anybody who would claim this to be album of the year, or any song on this album to be the "best" of the year is a clown. Not even remotely close to the truth. The project was average though. Not bad and not great.
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June 28, 2009 - 01:36:28 PM
soul. : ...
dang. what's with all the disrespect? i can understand that if you dont like Torae's album, then THAT'S what it is. but at the same time, dont disrespect DUDE right on his own review, although I may not agree with what's said [Sean's review].

I respect Sean for speaking his mind, but that's about it.

Everyone else, you guys are garbage. You guys shouldnt even posting on here- tearing down a man who's trying to make good music for everyone to listen to. like i said, if you dont like it, then keep it that way... or better yet, return the CD back to the store- if you held on to your receipt. Pathetic asses.

Im not gonna front.. i agree with 30% of the review, and disagree with the 70. I honestly DONT believe that he should have received an 81- personally, he should've received more. Honestly, as a person who writes reviews- you shouldnt compare producers to another producers [especially to someone like Preemo]. Im pretty sure he held his ground for a while.. but at the same time, emcees shouldnt be compared to other emcees- even on a review.

about asking Skyzoo for some advice is insulting and uncalled for. you're a big fucking loser for that.

MISTA23 and MaG are the only three that arent giving one-sided views on this project.

TORAE- Keep doing your thang, fam. I like your album.
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June 28, 2009 - 12:23:50 AM
MONGOSLAVE: ...
BEST ALBUM OF 2009 PERIOD, WHATS THIS DUDE SMOKING? TOR KILLED EVERY SONG. WHAT DO YOU WANT, AUTOTUNE? LOL
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June 26, 2009 - 11:08:20 PM
dcdog76: ...
Keep it up Tor and MP. This is probably my favorite album of the year so far. I'm from the boom bap era and this album made me feel like I was back in it, this is what a rap album should sound like. F what all you say about "lack of subject matter" on this album (90% of emcees talk about the same thing over and over), Tor's flow cannot be f'd with no matter what he's talking about. He spits it hard, gritty and grimey and MP's beats are on point. Great album especially considering all the highly anticipated albums released on Duck Down that end up being duds. "Lifetime" is probably the best song I've heard all year.
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June 26, 2009 - 12:44:08 PM
Doncee: ...
Best Real Hip-Hop record of 2009(till now) ...don't agree with the review! Keep doin it TORAE!
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June 26, 2009 - 10:16:33 AM
Hey Model Citizen. : ...
If you started school in 95 you would have graduated by now. This means if you can't tell it's an insult, you're slow or old as fuck. Hip Hop will never be what is was. Evolve don't stay stuck in time. Should roots do Illadeph half life over and over? The album is aite. The review was on point.
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June 26, 2009 - 09:46:46 AM
Model Citizen: ...
Finally copped this, hey Torae, don't let the review get to you man, your shit is hot on this record. This record sounds exactly like it's supposed to, hard beats and hard rhymes. "It would have done well in 1995 or so." Hey "your father," that doesn't sound like an insult to me at all, that's exactly what I was looking for from this record.
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June 25, 2009 - 10:34:06 PM
DJ SoulClap: ...
I love the album. What i Dont understand is, whye everybody compares Marco and Premo... The way Marco chops his samples and makes his beats is completely different to premo...
I got a lot of love for Sean Deez, but I think his words about Torae are just not right. Tor is really dope lyrically, i can't understand that point.

Andf at the dude saying Torae is boring on stage, come to Germany and see 300 people going nuts when Tor is on stage and then tell people it's boring...
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June 25, 2009 - 02:11:39 PM
MaG: ...
heres the deal...exclude Tor being my dude and I tell you da album is tuff. i think deez is entitled to his opinion and I personally disagree with the rating BUT i def ain't gonna knock him for seeing what he sees and calling it (always respect deez for that)

Tor get busy. point blank. and if you go in the catalog he is versatile man. To say da dude is wack is outrageous and to tell a grown man check anotha emcee for sum advice is insulting and uncalled for man. if you aint feelin the album then THIS aint for you and dats cool. but at least respect the art and what dese two put together....a damn good project. thats my nickel and a quarter
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June 25, 2009 - 02:08:21 PM
SUNson: ...
Torae and Marco are playing themselves replying to these comments.
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June 25, 2009 - 12:30:42 PM
Eric ClapSon: ...
"At times, he’s just too boring for even the most forgiving listener."

"However there are more than a handful of cheesy and weak moments"

"Torae’s performance throughout the album: boring, dull, and limited even while attempting to jump-start a fire that Marco has evidently already started."

"It might take until “Hold Up” to fully realize that it is indeed Torae who fades into the background after getting outdone by Masta Ace, Sean Price, and the Polo production (and cuts)."


WOW! Yo Torae KILL yourself son! LOL. I can't believe what I'm reading. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.
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June 25, 2009 - 12:24:08 PM
Ummm I: ...
was bored by the 3rd song.
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June 25, 2009 - 12:13:44 PM
a n*gga just be confused!: ...
These reviews are always written more like personal praise/rants on OKP's message board rather than professional reviews. I'd like to know more about if this was a solid project or not and less about how the writer has a distaste for Torae's music. How is it one of the more entertaining albums of the year but you consider the emcee BORING? This review sounds like it was written by Marco's girlfriend who is jealous of Torae for cutting into their quality time together lol.

Outside of that, I thought the album was a banger. If you listened to it to hear some angry, gritty 90's influenced NY boom bap (which I think is the whole concept of the album) then it doesn't disappoint. If you listened to it to hear some substance, finger-snapping, and poetry readings...then why would you listen to THIS album? I mean, these dudes are wearing skullies and all black on the cover! This is punch-you-in-ya-face music! Light your incense on another day.

That's my 2 cents...
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June 25, 2009 - 11:35:50 AM
MISTA23: ...
I think the review should have acknowledged/incorporated the fact that it's a themed project. It's supposed to maintain the hardcore vibe throughout, hence the material and “Orville Redenbacher, we pop the top” type lines.

It really boils down to wheter or not you are into gritty/gutter rhymes.

@ Sean you did a really good job selling why the beats were top notch and giving background on Marco Polo, but you didn't really flesh out why the rhymes were boring/the weaker points in the album.

I'm never really a fan of people putting themselves into reviews either. Reviews are always sensitive territory, but if you use most of your word count between the strengths/weaknesses, giving example through quoting verses, and summarize specific highlight (weak or strong) songs people can't really complain.
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June 25, 2009 - 11:12:25 AM
IPeezy.: ...
I thought this record was pretty dope, torae kinda reminds me of a young freddie foxx & mp comes correct on the beats.

peace.
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June 25, 2009 - 10:40:37 AM
Mike1: ...
The only reason Torae is even known is because he came out on Premo production. It's not like his skills were the reason. The album is the same Torae without Premiers dick to ride on.
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June 25, 2009 - 10:06:14 AM
Does anybody notice...: ...
after every real comment, somebody posts that they're the greatest thing ever? LOL. Anyways... I didn't download this album yet but from what I heard the review is correct.
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June 25, 2009 - 10:02:57 AM
Your father...: ...
Torae is a sucker for putting these fake ass postings on this review. Nobody gives a f*ck enough to put this many comments on this boring ass project. I'd put money on most of these comments coming directly from Torae and MP because of a bruised ego.

MP beats do lack soul for the most part. Torae is boring as hell. Too much rapping about rap. The topics are juvenile and yes, homophobic. No grown man with kids should be on that tired ass shit. The project sounds dated. It would have done well in 1995 or so. Complete lack of originality. Basically this album brought absolutely nothing new to the table.

Complaining about Tanya Morgan is tired too, although the points do hold merit. They too have no business even being known with their average music. They too benefit from a big cosign. Basically, Duckdown made a big mistake signing these guys.

Just my 2 cents.
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June 25, 2009 - 09:59:35 AM
blaine: ...
Torae is nice as hell. I think MP's production is boring not Torae's rhymes. Thats my problem with the album. Hopefully he does a project with Black Milk one day. MP's production lacks soul. Plus trying to be a Premier clone is wack. MP makes hot beats from time to time but he's not the producer to do a whole project with. No consistency.
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June 25, 2009 - 09:42:13 AM
CientifiQ: ...
I dont know what the reviewer was talking about but this album is dope both lyrically and beat wise. This cat must have not actually listened to the album. He must have just heard the first 4 seconds of the beat and went to the next track. Dopest album this year along with Jay Stay Paid....The nigga Torae does his thing! They both compliment each other on this album. Songs make sense and taking shots a these lame ass MC's that everyone are treating like gods is a good thing. Torae speaks on it because it needs to be spoke on. Why not? Like Jay said "Do you dudes just listen to music or skim through it" Because thats exactly what it sounds like the reviewer did.
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June 25, 2009 - 09:33:14 AM
Sleazy: ...
This album is a breath of fresh air to me, with banging beats and sick lyrics!
people who whine that tor is rapping about rapping really need to do there homework and listin again to Daily Conversation and DB.

peace love and unity
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June 25, 2009 - 08:58:19 AM
howardlloyd1: ...
am i the only one that finds it ironic that this "writer" criticizes Torae's writing but has a sentence that reads: "Juvenile (and homophobic too)?"

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June 24, 2009 - 09:29:34 PM
Habilis: ...
this album is dope. MP's beats are fuckin hard, and contrary to the review, I think Torae is a breath of fresh air.
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June 24, 2009 - 09:23:32 PM
hahahahahaha: ...
wow another wack ass okp review. U guys r really the worst when it comes to reviews. Personally the album was a bit lacking overall for me, but I dont really get why half the review is on some personal shit. Be a writer not a whiner. And if u hated it so much, why the decent score? tanya morgan gets blown around here and i think there music is definition of "boring". But hey whatever im just another dude on a blog lol. what do i know
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June 24, 2009 - 09:14:21 PM
truthborn: ...
Yo Torae you are boring son. The album kinda sounds dated, but I like MP's beats regardless. Rapping about rap is corny. Lyrically Torae you're cool. So so punchlines, and sometimes you show flashes of brilliance. The fact you defend yourself is admirable, but you're not being real with yourself. If you can honestly step back and say "Yo this album is incredible and I killed it" then cool. In reality it's aite. If it wasn't for MP beats then it would have got lost in the sea of below average music. Apparently the Duckdown co-sign is not enough.

I peeped your live performance at Southpaw, and in all honesty it was kinda boring too. You have some work to do on the performing front. Hey, most rappers do though.

That being said I hope you succeed.

TB
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June 24, 2009 - 07:04:30 PM
BK Ray: ...
The more I listen to this album the more I like it. This is PURE NY Gutta music....

I do want toss a thought out there to see what ya'll think. I personally believe Torae is biting Godfather Don's style and flow. Any thoughts?
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June 24, 2009 - 05:32:53 PM
Torae: ...
Ohhhh so you want me to rap like the homie Skyzoo J-League T, that makes sense...

So far I've put out 2 projects that were totally different from each other. I'll continue to do so, you continue to listen, and we'll be good.

Oh & just for the record "Save The Day" is as rapping about rapping as rap can get...


- Tor
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June 24, 2009 - 05:18:53 PM
J-League T: ...
Torae's verse on Merchants of Dreams had ONE hot line and that was it. The one about spinning the coupe around. The majority of verses on Daily Conversation were about rapping about rapping. Ish is WACK.

If you are the real Torae, switch your style up kid. Rapping about rapping is tired. You got potential... Skyzoo rarely raps about rapping-he's a good writer. Hit him up for some conceptual ideas.

But on some other ish, that "Save The Day" track does go hard. Not hating, one love
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June 24, 2009 - 03:24:23 PM
King Wiz: ...
Ok, so fair enough. But you really think the "Soul Slingers" and "Alan Wilkis" should get higher scores?

You know that looks ridiculous, right? You're clearly holding this album to a higher standard than others.

Also, if you're "riding in the whip" listening to Tor's music, why do you go out of your way in your review to take shots?


In Marco's first review on this site, the reviewer for "Orange Moon" called Marco a "fuckin asshole" and went out of his way to shit on MP's beats for some unknown reason. Guess what? Now OKP is calling it his "magnum opus."

We all know the music critic game, but you don't have to insult an artist whose music you obviously enjoy, just to have something to say. You could have summed up your complaints int two sentences, yet you choose to attack him for half of the review.

It's easy to pick apart an MC's lyrics, if you want to, but at the end of the day do you want to support the music you enjoy or do you want to tear it down? Do you want to see Tor feed his children or do you want to point out his weaknesses in great detail?
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June 24, 2009 - 12:43:33 PM
Gay.: ...
This review is gay.
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June 24, 2009 - 12:27:09 PM
DJ TEKNISION: ...
I'M FELLING THIS ALBUM!! I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHEN THE REVIEWER SAYS TORAE RAPS ABOUT THE SAME THING. I'M STILL TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE REVIEWER IS COMPARING THE ALBUM TO. ALL DAY LONG WE CAN LISTEN TO THESE WACK MAINSTREAM ARTIST TALK ABOUT HOES.MONEY AND DANCES BUT WE CAN'T LISTEN TO EMCEES THAT TALK ABOUT HIS LYRICAL SKILLS? I REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS REVIEWER WANT?
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June 24, 2009 - 11:52:49 AM
Torae: ...
J-League T. the real Torae (me) reads & responds to blogs, websites, messages boards etc... What should I rap about in your opinion. I did a song about family with my daughter "Tayler Made", did a song about surviving & making it "Someday" did a song about persevering in music "Callin' Me". I do plenty of different types of songs. I spit all over "Click" & "Merchant of Dreams". "Crashing Down" is a real and honest as you can get as an emcee. What are YOU listening to fam???
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June 24, 2009 - 10:29:11 AM
Uncle Fester (of the Extremities): ...
I think you might need to listen to the album again.....not only did you seriously underrate Torae but an 81?? This might be the best straight up true school rap album since 2000...
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June 24, 2009 - 08:51:25 AM
Deezill: ...
Respect to Torae for dropping his two cents. That's always dope. Keep working Tor. I mean, I said what I said in this review, and mean every bit of it, doesn't mean I wasn't playing "Click" or "Switch" while riding in the whip today thinking how good you can be at times.

And yeah J League, it probably was the real Torae. I should only hope more emcees and producers drop their two cents on topics at times... It's refreshing and absolutely respectable.
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June 24, 2009 - 02:45:13 AM
J-League T: ...
Ok, I doubt that was the real Torae ^

But on some real shit, the REAL Torae is borderline wack. Stop rapping about rapping, kid. Spit some real bars, not just some lines about how hot you are and how wack every other MC is. That's a lame way to rap
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June 24, 2009 - 01:14:14 AM
Torae: ...
You know what makes an "artist"? Versatility. I can't continue to make the same songs over & over again just because people aren't up on them. Double barrel is a themed project. It's not meant to be anything more than hard hitting beats & intense delivery & energy. Throughout my career & catalog I will cover many topics, thoughts & ideas. This was ONE of many to come. Glad you enjoyed Marco's production. I did too, that's why I was able to come in with the bang. Marco can be the star of the show that's cool I'll play CL Smooth or Guru this trip....(there's a message in there you probably won't get, it's aiight tho. Everything aint for everybody)
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June 24, 2009 - 12:43:14 AM

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