Comments for 2 The Hard Way: Jean Grae vs. Tamar-kali at http://www.okayplayer.com , comment 1 to 17 out of 17 comments http://www.okayplayer.com Mon, 23 Nov 2009 01:26:27 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.2 http://www.okayplayer.com/stories/music/2-the-hard-way:-jean-grae-vs.-tamar_kali-200903317681/#comment-26785 Cool Cool, however I have been somewhat misguided by Jean's lyrical content, I appreciate her deeply and admire her strength in such a industry for the many things she stands for. However listening to her lyrics sometimes tend to send me mixed messages, my two cents I also have read that 7L and Esoteric previously released something similar and that tends to be disappointing and jaded my joy thinking it was somewhat original - Soul Rion Mon, 03 Aug 2009 00:18:25 +0100 http://www.okayplayer.com/stories/music/2-the-hard-way:-jean-grae-vs.-tamar_kali-200903317681/#comment-22922 THERE IS HOPE FOR MY DAUGHTERS AND OTHER YOUNG FEMALE KIN-FOLKS IN MY FAMILY!!THEY NEED SOMETHING OTHER THAN THE USUAL SUCKEY/FUCKEY FARE OFFERED BY THE INDUSTRIES PARADE OF "QUEEN B's"!!! - B42Pac Sun, 07 Jun 2009 08:17:43 +0100 http://www.okayplayer.com/stories/music/2-the-hard-way:-jean-grae-vs.-tamar_kali-200903317681/#comment-22139 Nice still cool love'em both! - I gotIt Wed, 27 May 2009 12:39:45 +0100 http://www.okayplayer.com/stories/music/2-the-hard-way:-jean-grae-vs.-tamar_kali-200903317681/#comment-21834 No one will ever come back and see this nearly 2 mos later, but the pic is actually a nod to Warhol vs Basquiat. - Candace L Thu, 21 May 2009 15:26:52 +0100 http://www.okayplayer.com/stories/music/2-the-hard-way:-jean-grae-vs.-tamar_kali-200903317681/#comment-21313 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqwmLJ5lLyI Virginia's Hottest Rappers - antoinethereal Wed, 13 May 2009 13:14:39 +0100 http://www.okayplayer.com/stories/music/2-the-hard-way:-jean-grae-vs.-tamar_kali-200903317681/#comment-21084 This isn't a homage to 7L & Esoteric's "A New Dope"...it's a homage to a classic flyer for a gallery show featuring Andy Warhol and Jean-Michel Basquiat. Those poses have been copied dozens of times. http://www.posters.com/i/t/433271_Andy-Warhol-and-Jean-Michel-Basquiat.jpg - Plug One Boss Sat, 09 May 2009 13:37:44 +0100 http://www.okayplayer.com/stories/music/2-the-hard-way:-jean-grae-vs.-tamar_kali-200903317681/#comment-20393 2 wonderful women doing what they enjoy. They chose to promote themselves in this manner. 50 cent and LL didnt have clothes on for a long while. This picture is an eye opener that they are out here and that they want to be heard. I applaud both women for making an effort. www.myspace.com/crybloodfeattomgist - the crown still fits Wed, 29 Apr 2009 18:25:06 +0100 http://www.okayplayer.com/stories/music/2-the-hard-way:-jean-grae-vs.-tamar_kali-200903317681/#comment-20216 Yeah....i don't really participate in weird internet 'fights'..i got a hell of a lot more i'm fighting just on a day to day basis...I was back on this site just checkin out news and going through the usual 'hmmmm i wish i had a hip hop festival to look forward to in Melbourne, Australia" thing...ENVIOUS of places around the world that get exposure to regular gigs from Mos, Talib, The Roots and Q-tip (although i have had the honour to see all of them when they came down one by one in the last 2 years)...and then i saw the pic for this story up on the news page and remembered that i had gone on a rant not long ago and wrote some deep thoughts to sympathise with the writer of the article and one persons comments. So i clicked on the link and got onto this page again and read the comment back. I laughed. That's all you have to do sometimes, i believe anyway. I wasn't writing to get some sort of reaction or attacking another writer, my purpose was to merely do what i believe is the right thing to do in our time today, and that is to constantly respond, question, investigate, think about, discuss, share and bring to the surface some of the issues that are lingering between the lines of society today. And what was the response? Well. Bitch. Damn. So much for a little hope for discussion. I was actually really enjoying the reply because the commentator in question was making a point and it was about to perhaps prove me wrong? Or challenge my comments/views. But then somehow it just went in another direction. Calling it 'how it is' is fair enough, my point was obviously missed. There is something so vital about the way we speak on topics today, our younger generation are failing miserably...they're all becoming robots, mass produced MTV products. Nobody stops and really thinks about what they are saying and how they are just contributing to so many stereotypes...the English language is turning into such an ugly language. Kids walk around and say "That's so gay" and when they type on the internet they reduce great words and their vocabulary to such a state that it just brakes my heart. My fight is for the small stuff, the stuff that matters. I will say one thing in my defense to the very colourful reply that i have recieved, i don't believe i used any foul language towards you, just language. If you found any of it insulting, i apologise. Please do read over it again as i did point out that i didn't mean to imply any sort of personal disrespect. - happytrees, i am a woman, yes. We shouldn't apologise for our assumptions, they are set in within us by places, people, companies, organisations, family history and society in general, things we cannot control. The best thing i believe we can do is just acknowledge and try to think about why they are there, when they arise. Very intelligent of you (in my personal view) to stop and acknowledge that you did assume something. Sometimes, we are correct in our assumptions and sometimes (and forgive the language) they bite us in the arse (sorry i don't spell it as ass haha), but we must always investigate whether we were right or not, i think just for our own education and growth really. That's all i am going to say about all of this, i have absolutely no more time! I have to read a whole lot for College and i have to attend to my family. Thank you. - Naz. Tue, 28 Apr 2009 07:21:06 +0100 http://www.okayplayer.com/stories/music/2-the-hard-way:-jean-grae-vs.-tamar_kali-200903317681/#comment-19771 they stole their cover idea from 7l and esoterics a new dope. http://www.okayplayer.com/reviews/old-reviews/7l-_and_-esoteric-200607104643/ - decepticon Wed, 22 Apr 2009 13:04:21 +0100 http://www.okayplayer.com/stories/music/2-the-hard-way:-jean-grae-vs.-tamar_kali-200903317681/#comment-19749 btw, I have no idea why I assumed you were female - apologies. - happytrees Wed, 22 Apr 2009 09:14:28 +0100 http://www.okayplayer.com/stories/music/2-the-hard-way:-jean-grae-vs.-tamar_kali-200903317681/#comment-19748 naz, I feel you girl. that shit won't ever stop, but more and more recognize it for what it is. keep hoping. ihopeidont... perhaps there's some study about the effects of cocaine on the brain you could go participate in instead of posting more ignorance. if not, maybe you could just pretend to be over the age of 13 for a while. - happytrees Wed, 22 Apr 2009 09:13:13 +0100 http://www.okayplayer.com/stories/music/2-the-hard-way:-jean-grae-vs.-tamar_kali-200903317681/#comment-19483 Naz...Naz hey look Im just calling it what it is it's just a picture up there right Jean Grae and Tamar-Kali and nothing else I made the comment about the way she looked cause "Jean" was look'in kinda crazy with all those other hair-do's and oh by the wy she is my favorite "female" mc I bought and paid for downloads of her music, so bitch watch your "virgin" ass computer type'in ass with all that foul-ness! BITCH! - hOPEiDONTgObACKTOsELLNYAYO Sat, 18 Apr 2009 22:55:04 +0100 http://www.okayplayer.com/stories/music/2-the-hard-way:-jean-grae-vs.-tamar_kali-200903317681/#comment-19184 this is the cover of 7l and Esoteric's So Dope Album - jhindle Wed, 15 Apr 2009 13:59:12 +0100 http://www.okayplayer.com/stories/music/2-the-hard-way:-jean-grae-vs.-tamar_kali-200903317681/#comment-19167 You know what stops evolution? When i see the pic i see on this page, and i read what i just read, and i smile because it feels great to read about accomplished women and not about girls for a change - i think to myself, "Jean is a MACHINE!! She's rippin heads off and not slowing down for the little boys and the little girls" I notice someone i have never heard about, Tamar-Kali, and i am so excited to look her up now and very thankful that i can come onto this website every now and then and indulge my soul with GREAT artists - ARTISTS not female singers/rappers not male rappers/singers... just ARTISTS. I think and feel all these things and have a little hope for the direction in which we are all headed...and then i read a comment like this; "hOPEiDONTgObACKTOsELLNYAYO: ... Dude I just realized that the chick on the right has on, no t-shirt and that jean picked up a little weight "But" she's still fine and a good lyricist!" Really, with all due respect to you sir/maam, you just put this massive STOP sign up for me and completely jaded my process of joy for a minute there...it could perhaps even be a little bit annoying for somebody who has gone to great lengths to write what they have written about both these artists and to be left with a comment about what they are wearing in the picture. But hey, she's still fine and a good lyricist right? Thank God you confirmed that. I'm sure that looking 'fine' is all she thinks about. This is the first time i have ever stopped and written anything on any website before, and i have been using the internet for about 12 years now. Other than facebook etc, this is the first official comment i have ever made - especially about another person's comment. It's just that somebody like Jean is so very vital to the music industry, please let's not put her in that box, not her. Keep that for MTV stars. Evolution. Come on now. - Naz. Wed, 15 Apr 2009 08:16:43 +0100 http://www.okayplayer.com/stories/music/2-the-hard-way:-jean-grae-vs.-tamar_kali-200903317681/#comment-19118 Dude I just realized that the chick on the right has on, no t-shirt and that jean picked up a little weight "But" she's still fine and a good lyricist! -Stosa! - hOPEiDONTgObACKTOsELLNYAYO Tue, 14 Apr 2009 17:41:22 +0100 http://www.okayplayer.com/stories/music/2-the-hard-way:-jean-grae-vs.-tamar_kali-200903317681/#comment-18064 big ups to Jean Grae' and Tamar-Kali PRODUCER: Vante'Soul CHECK HIM OUT HERE: WWW.MYSPACE.COM/ALLSTARMUSICPRODUCTIONS - Vante'Soul Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:59:43 +0100 http://www.okayplayer.com/stories/music/2-the-hard-way:-jean-grae-vs.-tamar_kali-200903317681/#comment-18015 FIRST Whoa... ---DTown DK ALL DAY - DTown Tue, 31 Mar 2009 10:58:05 +0100